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Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:24:00 -
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No time to read the whole thread.
If this report: http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/26/ccp-investigates-player-panel-that-encouraged-cyber-bullying/ is in any means accurate description of what Mittens said, this is a rather serious issue.
Shooting people in the game in order to try and "win" by forcing them out of the game is one thing. Gloating on local, yea, fine.
But this is a person in position of trust using that position and the publicity it brings to encourage others to harass a specific other player. The victim has no way to reach a similar audience and plead his case. Moreover, the perpetrator already knows the target is depressed and suicidal, and still encourages this bullying. In most civilized countries that would probably count as a crime. In a civilized game, that should definitely count as an argument for the developers to ban him - in the very least to ban him from such positions of trust.
As much as I hate forum-whines of the "wah-wah I will quit unless you do what I like"... I for one take this seriously enough that if Mittens gets to continue in the CSM, I have to seriously consider whether I can morally justify giving CCP my money. I do not wish to in any shape or form to support this kind of malicious crap.
And no, I don't give an effing damn if Mitttens was drunk or sober at the time. An abusive drunk is still abusive, and "alcohol made me do it" is no excuse for bullying or violence. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:54:00 -
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Quote:3) CCP should take whatever action they see fit and not listen to these idiots. BUT whatever action they take they need to be consistent with it and NOT just kick Mittens and just go back to how things were. I know at least 5 people who should be banned for being assholes in game IF they kick Mittens.
Are any of those people chairmen of the CSM?
Yep.
And that does change things.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:06:00 -
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I'd wait until CCP makes the report after their investigation (or after several weeks have gone by so you can assume they are delaying it without informing us why) before assuming that this is ok by their standards.
After all, Mittens too, being a human, deserves that the case be thought about before decision is reached. Though personally I would suspend him from CSM until there is a decision in any case. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:50:00 -
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Eian wrote:This whole drunken thing was a disservice to EVE the game and the community. In RL and in game I'm kinda known as being a hard core mother. I was watching this live on stream and thought it was disgraceful behavior. No matter what happened it's CCP's fault for allowing this kind of behavior to happen in the first place.
Not really. While the CCP moderator present (I gather) definitely should have stopped this, and while I also feel CCP could use a little heavier hand in community policing in general, the only person to blame for what happened is The Mittani himself. CCP should be judged according to how they will react to what happened, not by it having happened. |
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Posted - 2012.03.27 06:11:00 -
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Regarding whether Mitten's behavior was acceptable, it does not matter if the guy really meant to off himself or if he does that. It also does not matter if Mittani really wanted him to die or not. His using his reputation and the Fanfest event to call for the harassment of an individual player would have been out of line even if the guy had never mentioned anything beyond not particularly liking being harassed by Goonies. Most bullying is meant as a joke by the bully. That does not make it alright.
The outrage is not about pity towards someone who has trouble dealing with Goonies in the game. The outrage is about someone abusing a position of trust to "play" against other players in such a way that is intended to cause bad feelings. |
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